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John McCain

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He does not seem to listen!
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Dont slate the man...

hes a Nam veteran!
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The guy is a hero!


Naval training, first marriage, and Vietnam assignment

McCain's pre-combat duty began when he was commissioned an ensign, and started two and a half years of training at Pensacola as a naval aviator.[14] While there, he earned a reputation as a partying man.[7] He completed flight school in 1960, and became a naval pilot of ground-attack aircraft, assigned to A-1 Skyraider squadrons[15] aboard the aircraft carriers USS Intrepid and USS Enterprise[16] in the Caribbean and Mediterranean Seas.[17] The planes he was flying crashed twice and once collided with power lines, but he received no major injuries.[17]
McCain requested a combat assignment,[22] and was assigned to the aircraft carrier USS Forrestal flying A-4 Skyhawks.[23] His combat duty began when he was 30 years old, in summer 1967, when Forrestal was assigned to a bombing campaign during the Vietnam War.[18][24] McCain and his fellow pilots became frustrated by micromanagement from Washington, and he would later write that "In all candor, we thought our civilian commanders were complete idiots who didn't have the least notion of what it took to win the war."[25][24]
By then a lieutenant commander, McCain was almost killed on July 29, 1967, when he was near the center of the Forrestal fire. He escaped from his burning jet and was trying to help another pilot escape when a bomb exploded;[26] McCain was struck in the legs and chest by fragments.[27] The ensuing fire killed 134 sailors and took 24 hours to control.[28][29] With the Forrestal out of commission, McCain volunteered for assignment with the USS Oriskany.[30]
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Prisoner of war

John McCain's capture and subsequent imprisonment began on October 26, 1967. He was flying his 23rd bombing mission over North Vietnam, when his A-4E Skyhawk was shot down by a missile over Hanoi.[31][32] McCain fractured both arms and a leg, and then nearly drowned, when he parachuted into Truc Bach Lake in Hanoi.[31] After he regained consciousness, some North Vietnamese pulled him ashore, then others crushed his shoulder with a rifle butt and bayoneted him.[31] McCain was then transported to Hanoi's main Hoa Lo Prison, nicknamed the "Hanoi Hilton".[32]

McCain being pulled from Truc Bach Lake in Hanoi and becoming a POW[33] on October 26, 1967


Although McCain was badly wounded, his captors refused to treat his injuries, instead beating and interrogating him to get information, and he was given medical care only when the North Vietnamese discovered that his father was a top admiral.[34] His status as a prisoner of war (POW) made the front pages of major newspapers.[35][36]
McCain spent six weeks in the hospital while receiving marginal care.[31] By then having lost 50 pounds (23 kg), in a chest cast, and with his hair turned white,[31] McCain was sent to a different camp on the outskirts of Hanoi[37] in December 1967, into a cell with two other Americans who did not expect him to live a week.[38] In March 1968, McCain was put into solitary confinement, where he remained for two more years.[39]
In mid–1968, McCain's father was named commander of all U.S. forces in the Vietnam theater, and McCain was offered early release.[40] The North Vietnamese made that offer because they wanted to appear merciful for propaganda purposes,[41] and also wanted to show other POWs that elite prisoners like McCain were willing to be treated preferentially.[40] McCain turned down the offer of repatriation; he would only accept the offer if every man taken in before him was released as well. Such early release was prohibited by the military's Code of Conduct. To prevent the enemy from using prisoners for propaganda, officers were to agree to be released in the order in which they were captured.[31]
In August 1968, a program of severe torture began on McCain.[42] He was subjected to rope bindings and repeated beatings every two hours, at the same time as he was suffering from dysentery.[31][42] Further injuries led to the beginning of a suicide attempt, which was stopped by guards.[31] After four days, McCain made an anti-American propaganda "confession".[31] He has always felt that his statement was dishonorable, but as he would later write, "I had learned what we all learned over there: Every man has his breaking point. I had reached mine."[43][44] His injuries left him permanently incapable of raising his arms above his head.[45] He subsequently received two to three beatings per week because of his continued refusal to sign additional statements.[46] Other American POWs were similarly tortured and maltreated in order to extract "confessions" and propaganda statements,[47] with many enduring even longer and worse treatment. Virtually all of the POWs who were tortured eventually yielded something to their captors.[48]
McCain refused to meet with various anti-war groups seeking peace in Hanoi, wanting to give neither them nor the North Vietnamese a propaganda victory.[49] From late 1969 onward, treatment of McCain and many of the other POWs became more tolerable,[50] while McCain continued actively to resist the camp authorities.[51] McCain and other prisoners cheered the B-52 Stratofortress-led U.S. "Christmas Bombing" campaign of December 1972, which they viewed as a forceful measure to push North Vietnam to terms.[44][52]
Altogether, McCain was held as a prisoner of war in North Vietnam for five and a half years. He was finally released from captivity on March 14, 1973.[53]
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Having him as President would be like keeping George Bush in Office...........he's all about war........
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Having him as President would be like keeping George Bush in Office...........he's all about war........
i agree barrack oBama FTW!!
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The word 'hero' shouldn't be reserved for those who actively support or participate in wars. Yes, John McCain showed courage during captivity in Vietnam, but he and his comrades shouldn't have been there in the first place.

My sympathies lie with those who had the courage to be jailed for their anti-war stance. A conscientious objector who is willing to risk imprisonment for NOT wanting to kill others is more of a 'hero' in my mind than someone who will condone murder for political and economic advantage.
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in Vietnam, but he and his comrades shouldn't have been there in the first place.
I agree..........
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The word 'hero' shouldn't be reserved for those who actively support or participate in wars. Yes, John McCain showed courage during captivity in Vietnam, but he and his comrades shouldn't have been there in the first place.

My sympathies lie with those who had the courage to be jailed for their anti-war stance. A conscientious objector who is willing to risk imprisonment for NOT wanting to kill others is more of a 'hero' in my mind than someone who will condone murder for political and economic advantage.

See...had you taken the time to read the article rather than jumping to an anti-war stance you may have learnt something:
McCain turned down the offer of repatriation; he would only accept the offer if every man taken in before him was released as well
THAT is why he is a hero...its a rare few that would do that

At the end of the day, a soldier does there duty..it is the politicians that decide if someone goes to war or not. A soldier pledges to fight for their country no matter what, it is the politicans that decide exactly what there fighting for, so saying they shouldnt be there has nothing to do with McCain himself, so that arguement is not valid here...

There lies the problem with the vast majority of anti-war protestors..they only see there own view, that war is wrong and the soldiers are the cause as much as the politicians...a soldier is doing their duty, fighting for their country...they do not choose where they are deployed or who they fight/protect, maybe a few do it for the love of fighting/killing but the majority dont, they do their duty and that is all. He was a soldier then and a politicain now...NOT the other way round

Obama has to much to prove...McCain doesn't..he has been in war...he wont take decisions to go to war lightly
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Having him as President would be like keeping George Bush in Office...........he's all about war........
Spot on! Another lame duck president being overseen by the elite.
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he wont take decisions to go to war lightly
No, but he will be quicker to go to war than not, whether we or anyone should be there or not; he has voted with Bush 98% of the time, and Bush has done nothing good for the U.S. ......
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it was interesting the recent presidential debate mcain was allowed to say the last words about how he was a POW and would represent the american people, seems like the broadcasters decided to give him free reign and were endorsing him, just seemed a little underhand how they finished up the debate
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